Just grow up and ignore the random internet comments you are elevating the drama of this internet troll thing by talking about it. I let go of my preconceptions about what star trek is. I hope that Wiseman uses that info into the future because it does work for fat burning and muscle building.. Do you see that tension? What accent? I absolutely love Tilly/Killy. Barclay was funny and silly but relatable due to his social anxiety. I also know hes basically your favorite Trek author. 'Star Trek: Discovery' Season 4 Episode 13 Recap: A - TVLine I basically just know the books that gets discussed or reviewed here. Right? Tilly is Trekdom. Its far from just the United States or even just affluent countries. They should all try for the standards of randos on the internet like you However, if we got to see Tilly gradually improve herself. That does so much emotional damage to a personbut it also says a lot about those doing the body-shaming. I did, though. Picard is the third Kurtzman Production. She cant control her weight. [laughs] Everybody loves Tilly. They should have tried to make Tilly more credible first. As a Black girl, I felt I was supposed to look this way. With predictive spelling and multiple languages available, incorrect word choice is a constant threat even when one does type in the correct word. That being said, knowing what weight restrictions there are for men and women serving avoid combat ships in todays Navy, my bet would be she would need to lose some weight to preserve her shipboard assignment in todays real-world Navy. We have both Mary Wiseman and Sonequa Martin-Green talking about body issues, Kate Mulgrew jumping in too, and some more behind-the-scenes photos. BTW, I know this is waaaaaay off topic, but since you are the literary Trek lover on this site and keep up with a lot of the books, do you think Prodigy is going to use some of Kirsten Beyers Full Circle Voyager story lines? I expect that well have her in the world and all of those things. He was a cool character and one of the best things about season 3. The only writers they need are people who can polish it up enough so that you cant tell its machine-written. Star Trek: Discovery season 4: everything we know | TechRadar Overcome her issues. We have no information that Beyer consults in this show. Up ahead, we explain what happened to Tilly in the recent episode and also discuss actor Mary Wiseman's status on the show. Disco has a lot of problems storywise But not her looks! I cant spoil anything into season five, except to say that we love Tilly. It was EXACTLY what I needed while mourning my own mother. Too nervous and anxious. Is her awkwardness all that different from Ezri on DS9? Its a problem in even some least developed countries now. Sense of morals. How blandly Puritan. Where are they!? Great interview, Dawn. Look at the progression of Nog on DS9 from Quarks juvenile-delinquent nephew in season 1 to Starfleet Ensign in the Dominion War on how writers can make you believe in a characters growth and progression. Star Trek: Discoverystreams exclusively onParamount+in the U.S. I like the way you think! As I said Tilly has the same issues. Star Trek: Discovery threw a shocker into its latest episode as Lieutenant Sylvia Tilly decided to leave the Discovery crew. lol ;). Mary Wiseman: That that could be a very powerful person in the Mirror Universe. Episodes will be available on Fridays internationally on Netflix. There are characters you really cherish and others that are fun but ultimately nothing special. Absolutely. I believe we can thank Mack for helping the Showrunners and writers identify species that would work in Prodigy and for some deep cuts. And tons dont. Season four of Star Trek: Discovery arrives on Thursday, November 18 on Paramount+. All Access Star Trek Podcast, Discovery, DS9, Lower Decks, Section 31, Star Trek 4, Star Trek: Picard, Star Trek: Prodigy, Strange New Worlds. Just blows my mind. The problem is, very deep into his 80s, and theres still chatter about him playing the action hero. For me, DS9 was the best Star Trek Show for character development. For me I love how it deals with social logic as well as technology. What I should point out though is that Mack earned the moniker Angel of Death among the Litverse fans. He was non-military, the same height as me, and easily weighed 300#. Keep up the great work ladies! Because Book is someone who doesnt just have cerebral, intellectual intelligence. I dont think Tilly is ruined. Eh, only in some particular parts of the internet. And the only family she has is on that ship. Sisko on the other hand. Not sure what her weight has to do with anything. I tried watching Star Trek Discovery but can't anymore. I find it to be The rumors started and spread like wildfire when some fanatics of Star Trek Discovery found out that Mary gained a few pounds between the seasons. The mirror Tilly and the ISS Discovery appear in the "Mirror of Discovery" storyline in Star Trek Online, as part of the game's 9th anniversary in January 2019; she is voiced by Mary Wiseman, who also . Which I think would be a tremendous mistake. I would ask our family doctor, Is there anything you can give me thatll make me gain weight?'. Is Mary Wiseman Pregnant? Weight Gain And Pregnancy Rumor Of The Shes only competent because of her character shield, shes mentally and emotionally immature, out of shape for the job shes in and the role she wanted to perform, and would barely survive in a high school, let alone in any capacity at an actual Starfleet. I think the character would have been much better served if Tillys quirks were something that changed as the character grew over the seasons. She let go in S4 of her parents expectations and embraced a new purpose. Mary Wiseman, Cadet to Lieutenant Silvia Tilly on Star Trek: Discovery David, Can we expect any surprising uses of the special things that Book can do in season four, now that he can control the spore drive? Why do you think being nervous or anxious means that you can not graduate from the academy? Ive learned a lot of bad spelling comes from dictating into your smartphone. My suspicion is they farm this out to sweatshops somewhere in Asia. Like a lot of people, she pivoted and found herself in a new role as teacher. Samarkand? Thats undeniable. Although there are speculations of Mary Wiseman's pregnancy, she is not. Wasnt it Saru who made Tilly the First Officer? Cant believe people are so rude as to insult anyone because they dont look the way they expect. My preference would be to set it post TUC but quite frankly any other established era would be fine. Everybody loves is an idiom, it should never be taken as a strict statement. She is best known for starring as Sylvia Tilly in the Paramount+ science fiction drama series Star Trek: Discovery (2017-present). Shes one of the shows most divisive characters. We use cookies to ensure that we give you the best experience on our website. By existing? So many reasons to be critical of Disco plot holes, awful sense of morals, missed opportunities, etc. But dont those characteristics fit better on a younger character, while the older one grows up and changes? I truly do love this show, but Burnham and Tilly are so damn annoying. This sounds kind of racist. Key difference in thinking, and it makes all the difference in the big picture! And to be honest, she never really helped him out all that much. I agree with you on principle as far at this being fine on a fictional Star Trek show. Other ships having counselors in the TNG era was mentioned. Was that really a Betazoid characteristic or was she just reading faces and gestures? Mary Wiseman Weight Gain - Before & After Photos Exposed - Mixedarticle David Ajala: Legit, its still very palpable here. 108 comments so far. Is Tilly (actress) pregnant or unwell?? - The Trek BBS I think Mary is doing a fantastic job as isSonequa, Their characters are fantastic as are all the others. Shes supposed to set the example. Mary shouldnt listen to the haters and Sonequa, I never noticed she looked any different than she did before, body wise. Somewhere in the bowels of Secret Hideout, they invented a computer program that can cobble together scripts that fit various parameters. Its one thing thats definitely been improved upon by the more recent stuff. Im sure many may NOT be a Janeway but could at least look at her and say thats what I aspire to be. And, yeah, I've also heard a rumor about a potential Starfleet Academy series, and I'm assuming it's being set in the future setting of Discovery. Saying that its the job of actors to tell people whats healthy and whats not is the problem, not a solution. Season four of Star Trek: Discovery arrives on Thursday, November 18 on Paramount+. The only thing she is qualified for at Starfleet Academy is as a 23rd century specialist. All are Trek! She could of made it what we call General American/mid-Atlantic to neutralize it a little. American actress Mary Wiseman payed several smaller roles in the past but recently gained a big recognition as Cadet Sylvia Tilly in new iteration of Star Trek franchise called Star trek: Discovery. Sincerely, obesity is defined in terms of the proportion of body fat associated higher risk of illness. At New York Comic Con, TrekMovie participated in some group interviews with members of the cast and crew,. Gotta side with Sascha here. Tilly is part Wesley Crusher and part Barclay. For someone who is supposed to care about others, shes been remarkably stuck in her own emotions. New episodes ofStarTrek: Discoverypremiere on Thursdays onCBS All Accessin the U.S. andonCTV Sci-Fi Channelin Canada, where its also available to stream onCrave. Shes changed. That was an awfully fast turnaround. Everyone has their gifts. I think Saru will just be the surrogate first officer again although he is now a captain. Yes I forgot David Mack is a consultant on this show too and is well aware of all the post-Nemesis stories in the novels. One reason why I think people gravitated towards Trip the most on Enterprise was that the combination of writing and performances created one of the most believable humans in Star Trek this side of Dr. McCoy and Chief OBrien. She served aboard the USS Discovery while still a cadet in 2256, later commissioned as an ensign . Mary Wiseman | Body Measurements Someone with a lack of intelligence throws a race card at every debate. I understand the actress is very well-respected and a nice person, but I couldnt stand the Tilly character myself. And how and how would your abilities be used in the Mirror Universe? All Access Star Trek Podcast, Discovery, DS9, Lower Decks, Section 31, Star Trek 4, Star Trek: Picard, Star Trek: Prodigy, Strange New Worlds. She would have flushed out of SFA in her first year. Tilly is the most human member of the crew. Im not surprised people making mean comments, some people will find whatever they can that they know will upset everyone and say it. They seemed to only be limited by what that particular script called for that week. We need to examine our highest ideals and allegiances to reveal our preconceived notions, shallow knee-jerk reactions, and find the truth about our choices. A statistical average does not justify shaming or ridiculing anyone. Even 1,000 years into the future, Burham cannotoh well, that is a different story for a different post. Maybe sociological issues? But its the elephant we have in the room, these days. Bullied badly as a child and teen so I know what I speak of; Im just glad I grew up pre-Internet, and I sympathize with any nowadays who have to deal with Internet bullying on top of real world bullying. Keep up the great work ladies! Jealous and insecure,they can only feel better by putting others down. Wiseman would be smart to ignore the haters because their posts are rooted in negativity and hate. Not with DSC, not with ANYTHING. Rather than shaming them or acting like there are only a few kinds of women worth aspiring to be. Sonequa is by all accounts probably the best or one of the best chef de compagnie of all the Trek series. However, with the successive changes in show runners the coherence of Burnhams development has been lost. However, I do struggle with popular media normalizing unhealthy weights whether over or underweight because they are health risks. Sonequa is a great actress. Wiseman possess voluptuous hourglass shaped figure. Take me to the stars and tell me a story. It doesnt matter either way but with so much Voyager mythology created in those novels, it would be cool to see some of it translated on this show! Thats not good writing, its oandering fan fiction, Starfleet is not military. I do not endorse body-shaming in any way, as I was bullied as a kid years ago. If that scene reflects something she regularly incorporates into her real-life, then I think she will be just fine and she can tell the haters to go pound salt. Do I want to be Barclay or Harry Kim? But my point was that she rarely conveyed anything useful or something that was not already obvious to all. The Klingon redesign was much more than a visual reboot and especially the tech aspects dont fit canon (holographic communication, Klingon cloaking, android bridge crew, easy terraforming, state-of-the-art nanotech, Enterprise battle squad). No one of my Trekkie friends, growing up with TNG watch this anymore. I found him quite annoying, myself. Although criticism of a performance is valid (Burnhams whispering, over emoting etc.) In fact this is Discoverys success is showing human emotion as another frontier to cross because it is in fact the major component in value choices and decisions that are an unrecognized part of strategic and political decisions as per our many current political divides in US. all the outfits here are golden IMO but those shoes murder! Tillys anxiety got old real fast. But Tilly and the nervous mess Adira has devolved into? The Terra Firma arc introduced the real Mirror Universe version of Tilly (aka Captain Killy). That promise was. Tilly, played by Mary Wiseman on Star Trek Discovery is not pregnant. Its intolerance in its most basic form, and anyone who engages in, advocates for, or turns a blind eye and deaf ear to it are examples of the worst humanity has to offer, and most certainly have no business calling themselves a Star Trek fan. Star Trek: Discovery Boss Explains That Tilly Reveal - Yahoo! News )Granted, I think the special effects, space battles, bizarre technology and explosions are the proverbial tail wagging the dog, but thats always been the case, and is increasingly expected in these post-Star Wars, high tech decades. Mary shouldnt listen to the haters and Sonequa, I never noticed she looked any different than she did before, body wise. The reed-thin part sometimes involves unhealthy behaviors. As long as Wesley Crusher exists she will always be in a race for that title. Harry wasnt annoying. Regarding fans, tons of them love Tilly. No one can be expected to sugarcoat reality for you, and your attitude to people who dont is very indicative that you need someone to help you with that. Sometimes it worked over amazing distances other times not. As far as science fiction most Trek shows have normal looking ppl. There is also the issue that a crew needing constant therapy sessions while regularly saving the galaxy is not an easy narrative trick to pull off. The show will roll out on Paramount Plus in the US, and is expected to stream on Netflix elsewhere. Good for her, and I love the character! If they wont act a woman should take a pear of pruning shears and cut off that little pecker of yours (its what Killy would do). Respectfully, to anyone somehow offended by that. Thats the thought I had last season, when they had the perfect chance to wirte out Burnam (I believe it was Reunification III or the one after that) and they just didnt follow through at the end. Just take a little trip down the hellhole that is a tabloids message boards and youll see the kind of body shaming of male and female actors and celebrities that exists out there. That said, the stolid approach to characterization has its benefits as well when an emotional outburst happens it can be devastating (see: Picards breakdowns in the likes of Family, Chain of Command, First Contact), but it also allows for subtler moments to have outsized impacts (Odo asking Garak to breakfast, Seven revealing her favorite color, Picards 1/4 smiles when no one is looking, Spocks eyebrow etc), which is also quite true to life. And now, with only three years under her belt in the field, only two of which were as a ranked officer, they think shes somehow ready to train the next generation of recruits?! Its could have (or couldve). You made very good points and I do agree. David Ajala: Yeah. After they wrote her to be the most annoying person possible. It feels the only reason was to have a non-binary character, which after a few episodes ended up fading into the background with the rest of the furniture anyway. Should the nice girl get off your lawn? She was annoying to me, and the crew gave her a lot of leeway. This week's episode raised concerns. I agree, the writing, character development, and story telling needs to improve. Yes! Shes magnetic. But I would like to read some of the TNG books Ive heard about, especially the Destiny series which I know is a big crossover with all the classic shows and the Borg. Im sorry youve had to experience that and I strongly urge you to take what comfort you can from whatever source you can, regardless of how other people feel about that source. :P (I know the whole thing of having a *ships* councilor is inherently different from what real therapists do on dry land, but yeah its super weird. It has also been speculated that Wiseman may be moving over to the proposed Starfleet Academy show openly discussed by Alex Kurtzman and Paramount+ execs but not yet officially ordered as a series. I agree! Perhaps season four will address Burnham and Tillys unreadiness on more than an emotional level. I think the ship can handle a little chonk. Shes not going anywhere. That is definitely not a true statement. Body shaming is just another category of bullying, with the same general goal of the shamer making him/herself feel superior by putting down others around them, rather than elevate him/herself with goodwill and compassion. In the latest Star Trek: Discovery episode, Sylvia Tilly ( Mary Wiseman) was tasked with . Im mostly just curious if Tillys removal from Disco came from Wiseman looking to do other projects or if they wrote it in and broke the news that she was getting cut as a regular. Bad, character pandering types of writing, with over-emotional children in the roles of astronaut-scientist-soldiers. My personal opinion is, if you see ribs in their low decolletage, they are probably not so healthy. Before we move on to SuKal this Thursday, there are still some bits to catch up on from the Terra Firma arc of Star Trek: Discovery. Biography Her character, Sylvia Tilly, has had plenty of opportunities to shine without giving anything away, and Wiseman has risen to the occasion. But of course this being Star Trek they SPOILER ALERT bring her back to life! Some of us dont grasp the very basic foundation of what Star Trek is all about!? Im sorry but what youve described about Tilly is like something out of a Nickelodeon teen high school drama. But respect is always earned and never enforceable. And thats a healthy outlook. That sucks, but that is just the way it goes. What do you think it looks like? And I know Chakotay was also Captain on Voyager in those books as well. Conversational, easy to listen to and understand every point. As long as the stories remain laser-focused on the *people* their *relationships* and the *emotions* generated therein, instead of ships, gadgets, and effects, well be fine. Remember , they had steroids and thyroid problems in the 80's, but the majority of people were off normal weight, which today would be called skinny. My condolences to you, for your mum. She is absolutely beautiful just as she is. Smart doesnt mean competent. I think theres room for it. STAR TREK and its various marks are trademarks of CBS Studios Inc. 2023 CBS Studios Inc./Paramount Pictures Corp. 2006-2023 SciFanatic Network | Legal/Privacy Info, Copyright 2023 | MH Newsdesk by MH Themes, Podcast: All Access Dives Into The Latest Episode Of Picard And Probes Star Treks TV (And Movie) Future, BREAKING: Star Trek: Discovery To Conclude With Season 5, Review: Star Trek: Picard Runs Deep In Seventeen Seconds, Watch Picard And Riker Reverse Their Classic Roles In Star Trek: Picard Episode 303 Clip, J.J. Abrams Talks Compelling Story For Star Trek 4; Chris Pine Expresses Frustration Over Wait, I hope Mary Wiseman is okay or has a good reason for her weight gain since S1. Overweight is a risk of becoming obese. I think you are talking jibberish. You are always very insightful. She brings so much heart to the show. Id add Kirk to that at several times over the years. Cant believe some fans complain about character A or B or C. I am sorry, but the obsessive complaining about Sonequa/Michael or Mary/Tilly, for who they are, is so rude. Maybe having had to step up to the plate before she was ready I think she intellectually knows that she didnt fail, and that its not her fault that Osyraa took the ship, she didnt have all the information, but I still think the fact that that she took command and somehow lost the ship would be an enormous blow to her confidence and make her question a lot of stuff. Keep up with theStar Trek Universe at TrekMovie.com. The doctor was usually the therapist. Im reaally hoping season 4 will be smoother, Im holding thumbs here. This show has been for a niche of Trek fandom not the mainstream. And yeah the Full Circle stories do sound a bit depressing especially since SPOILER ALERT they kill off Janeway in them! The entire point of Tillys character is that shes a Starfleet officer that doesnt have to be a supermodel like so many Trek characters before: Troi, Seven, TPol, Jadzia perfect golden cut supermodels. It just came to me and wanted your opinion. Mary Wiseman: We dont have that many scenes together but theres a lot of tension between us just as actors and personalities. What? the only one worth saving.. quite possibly the most irritating character in Trek history. Tillys a fantastic character. David, has Michael becoming captain changed Books relationship with her? Troi made explicit the evil intent lies we tell each other and ourselves to gain selfish material and political advantage. advantage. DSC has a wonderful cast and a neat diverse set of characters. It is not others right to tell someone how their body should be that sort of thing was done with slaves. After Burnham (Sonequa Martin-Green) and Tilly (Mary Wiseman) journey to a planet alongside Burnham's mother Gabrielle (Sonja Sohn), things get a little hairy when the Qowat Milat nun they're . Her body shape is fabulousshe is gorgeous. In season one and early season two, I was finding it credible as a case of someone who had unresolved PTSD and was unmoored from the culture that had encouraged her to supress her trauma. Thats just a matter of preference. Every woman is very beautiful. She is one of the best things about Discovery. Hey writers room go back to TNG and see how a child became an honourary bridge officer on the Enterprise D. (something equally puzzling to say the least) Picard did it because the Traveller who could traverse space time and see the future and past told Picard it was extremely important to encourage the boy. By indicating that shes not ashamed of her body? What is wrong, pretty bad to read, is fans mocking the actors, it is actually very sexist, not cool. I have nothing against Mary Wiseman. No it says a lot about the incredibly dangerous message she is sending. I gave this dumpster fire of far left propaganda 4 seasons. Mary Wiseman has established herself as a talented actor on Star Trek: Discovery. SuKal accidentally blowing up all warp ships thats another instance of Trek being intwined with my own life So you offend S3 of DSC, you also sully the memory of my mum and EVERY mother that ever died. Did they write Tilly off of the series? : r/StarTrekDiscovery - reddit Understanding? Some folks here like this nu trek because it lowered standards to make them feel better about themselves. (OMG, weve gone way off topic lol. Everybody loves ., meant literally, is never true. Lwaxana sometimes I dont mind her simply because she puts Picard and Odo on their back feet, but she was very OTT on shows that didnt really have a lot of OTT characters, and there was little reason for her to keep appearing on DS9 beyond reverence towards Majel Barrett.
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