the official stats partner of the NBA, NHL and MLB. @ice. Cant believe how many time the site posts the same comment. And Patrick Corbin with the Yankees. Notice I mentioned that those numbers were for 7 years of Swansons production? Strider opened the season as a reliever but then solidified Atlanta's rotation, helping the Braves win their fifth consecutive NL East title. He wasnt before 2020. Then blew it against the Braves and then against the Pads. Only if its a Top-2 mustache, and it is. I mean I wouldnt even extend a player if they are going to get 85% or more of their contract by going year to year. If thats the case, then the Braves just got Spencers first 5 seasons for, check this, 15 million. He had a 5-2 record with a 4.71 ERA, allowing 53 hits, 38 walks, and 89 strikeouts. Spencer Strider: From High School Football Star To Super Bowl Champion Annoying, but stuff happens.. Good job locking up one of the top young mustaches in the game. They just gave him $53M for his 3 arb years. These rookies contracts are just starting to be the front office getting over their skis and thinking they cant screw up. I mean, were talking about MLB thats chosen to segregate their most loyal fans by continuing blacking-out games and fracturing the TV market with money-grab, inane exclusive streaming deals (i.e. Apple TV games are free this year. The team looking to sign Swanson should have some concerns that his 2022 is unlike anything prior. The point being that the new CBA has ZERO effect on arbitration. If that happens, he will have 2 years and 3 days of service time. We have tools and resources that can help you use sports data. 6/120 is light, based on his defensive floor. The Braves are getting 2 years of FA for $44 million total. probably not. Were talking about a position player who finished top 5 MVP both seasons leading into the arb years. Spencer Schwellenbach, RHP 10. I am sure that actuaries worked hard. By Steve Adams | October 10, 2022 at 11:03pm CDT. You dont need to extend Grissom. Those numbers are very reasonable. Players use that as a bargaining tactic all the time. Rct and Cosmos2 are the two Met commenters on the site that most fit this description. Draft Contact doesnt increase as bat speed wains, hand eye coordination deteriorates, and eye sight worsens. and injuries. The Braves stepped up and want Morton to do it again, for $20m. https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021/11/super-two-status-set-at-2-116-years-of-service.html. The Marlins are one new owner away from being elite. 33. @bhambrave If you dont know what Super Two means dont try to talk about which players are or arent one. @MJ: If you look at it from Striders perspective, hed be making a lot more money, regardless of where it comes from. You think that contract for Strider isnt a slap in the face to guys in that clubhouse? No, the alternative is to wait an extra year or two before extending him and then not overpaying for his arb years if/when you do still decide to extend him. Julio Rodriguez still gets money for finishing 2nd in the HR Derby, gets money for being an All-Star, more money for being the Rookie of the Year, more money for probably winning a Silver Slugger, and then more money based on how much of the total rookie WAR was made up of his nearly 5.5 to 6 WAR season (they have their own calculator for WAR that is not exactly like fWAR or bWAR). Love the extension deal for a young guy. With future commitments, he still has a lot to accomplish in his life. us. Spencer Strider sets an Atlanta Braves record with 16 Ks in a game Story 16.2 WAR Braves should stay as far away from Correas mercenary thoughts (and bad back) as possible. Another problem is the harder you throw, the more stress you put on your arm and the more likely you are to get injured. Strider retired all three batters he faced Wednesday while throwing his first simulated game of spring training, Justin Toscano of The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reports. Im a Braves fan who believes that there are plenty of fans of other teams who have common sense, knowledge, and good manners. 3rd ARB year was supposed to be $21.5 MM. Factor in the Braves are assuming all of the risk hell continue to pitch at an elite level for 5 straight years to top it off, which is no guarantee. This allows them to trade for players like raisel iglesias who have extra years remaining on their contracts. Yeah, selling tickets is all that matters. Spencer Strider Rumors & News Bats: R Throws: R Height: 72 Weight: 195 Age 23 Seasons: 1 Salary: 570,500 Birthplace: Columbus, Ohio College: Clemson Rumors & News Videos Photos TalkingChop Feb 8, 2023 Daily Hammer Podcast: The Braves Could Feature Some of the Best Brands in Baseball He doesnt even need to have constant injury problems. Without the extension, Strider would have been eligible for free agency after the '27 season. Here's how WBC offenses stack up with MLB's best. Bigger pitchers hold up better, thicker pitchers hold up better. Now sign 7! If you give 7 a six year deal that takes him through his age 35 season. Strider finished with a 11-5 record, 2.62 ERA and a 1.00 WHIP through 31 games. Grissom has about as much chance of playing a capable ML SS as a fan picked at random when they come through the gate. Pads Fan. There is no amount of rationalizing that can excuse that. Braves dont even have enough to trade for a SS. Its a shame he doesnt pitch for the Mets. The Braves got a significant discount on the 2 FA years. Both Story and Baez are much better players. Strider averaged 13.8 strikeouts per nine innings - best in the big leagues - while posting an 11-5 record, 2.67 earned run average, and 202 strikeouts in 131 2/3 innings. Does he hit enough to play left field? Hes definitely Super Two. June 27, 2022 To Spencer Strider, there are two parts of his baseball life: "PTJ" and "ATJ." Pre-Tommy John and After Tommy John. Similar thing happened last year when LAD needed to replace Corey Seagers offense by sliding Muncy over and signing Freeman at half the price. somewhere in the 100-115 range over 6 years. Super Two means you are arb eligible a year earlier, not that you get an extra year of service time. Sorry for the redundancy the message from the site was confusing. Its not playing victim. Only long term deal we signed was lindor who is young in his prime. People dont seem to understand just how good Striders peripherals are. Instead, he attended Clemson University and played college baseball for the Clemson Tigers. Please logout and login again. How Much Does Spencer Strider Make? With the shift going away, how can anyone think Olsons production is going to go down is beyond me. AA is saving money collectively and signing his core players. Strider just had one of the best seasons for a rookie starter in the arbitration era. Braves manager Brian Snitker wasnt ready to say whether Strider might be used as an opener, a reliever or possibly fill both roles during the best-of-five series against the Phillies. This is irrelevant, this is such a stupid overpay. Spencer pitched as a long reliever and starter, was a three-time ACC Academic Honor Roll member, and appeared in 26 games with 10 starts, totaling 63.0 innings pitched. Spencer Strider - Clemson Tigers Official Athletics Site No one is making obscenely more then the other. It was that year I knew hed be a douchebag for being a Yankee bandwagoner in SoCal. 2025: $9-10M The Braves completed a remarkable late-season rally to capture the top spot in the NL East for the fifth straight season. Around $150 million for those 7 seasons. He played college baseball for the Clemson Tigers, and was drafted by the Atlanta Braves in the fourth round of the 2020 Major League Baseball Draft. Ya this was a massive overpay for his final 2 arb years even if they get 2028 and an option for 29. I see Grissom in the outfield with Harris/Acuna next year. I cannot wait for the Braves/Phillies series to start in a few hours. Freeman even took Seagers #5 jerseytoo easy. Ask Trevor Rogers who faceplanted in 2022. Prior to his MLB career, he played for minor league teams such as Augusta GreenJackets, Rome Braves, Mississippi Braves, and the Gwinnett Stripers. They will likely have to beat the league-leading LA Dodgers if they want to reach the World Series. This information might be about you, your preferences or your device and is mostly used to make the site work as you expect it to. Thats fair. Hes allergic to walks. Imagine if they wouldve locked up Soroka. The Giants & Cubbies will follow and up the Goliaths to 5. For a full look at the Braves' 2022 postseason schedule, click here. So basically they guaranteed his arbitration scale in exchange for an extra year, with an option for another year for more money. They wont because the union wont allow it to only benefit a segment of the members. The specific cutoff date varies on a year-to-year basis. Now stand in the corner and think about what youve learned today. Lame. Scherzer isnt aging crap but it was one bad Wild Card game plus losing that pivotal start vs. ATL (he gave up 6 HR in his final 2 starts (inc. WC game) when he gave up only 13 HR all reg season). . Most likely, he wouldnt get anywhere near that much in arbitration. Hes getting old and is owed a good chunk of change still. Spencer Strider is on Instagram at spencerstrider. $16M (2026) Trevor Bauers arb years: $6.5M (2018), $13M (2019), $17.5M (2020) Strider will be top 2 in ROY voting. Thats 65m, plus his first 3 years. He was real good but lets not get carried away with how good he is. You have? Spencer Strider sets an Atlanta Braves record with 16 Ks in a game!!!!!! The alternative is not extending anyone and going to find TOR (top of rotation) pitching on the free agent market where the failure rate is MUCH higher partially because the age is so much higher, along with the rate of pay. I could be mistaken on this because I dont follow the Braves as closely as you all do; but it seems to me that part of this is AAs (or Braves) intent on establishing the players relationship through goodwill too for the future. The dumb ones, like the Alderson-Eppler-Cohen Mets, traded 11 rWAR worth of MI for the privilege of giving Lindor $363m over 11 seasons because, as usual, they couldnt see what was right in front of them. As much as the Acuna and Albies deals were highway robbery they still havent been good cause theyve been hurt or half what they were. Still waiting to see the projection where two arb years are the same, factoring in the obligatory TJ surgery. Braves sign RHP Spencer Strider to $75 million extension But all of that is irrelevant, if he starts pitching like he did in Game 3 of the NLDS!! When multiple players including likely Judge, Turner, and Correa surpass 7 years with a $35 MM AAV will you come back and say you were wrong? Braves righty Spencer Strider has been put on the 15-day injured list with a strained oblique muscle. Ambioris Tavarez, SS 11. We will gladly take him, throw in 20 million of his salary as well since you feel as though youve overpaid for him? They couldve done that with a 6 year deal for $45M with a $25M option. Its not if Strider has TJ surgery, but when he will have it. In Braves speak, that means hes hitting FA. It very well could be a bad deal for his team if he cant continue the level of dominance he showed this year or has constant injury problems. Personally, I think the key is to get control of extra free agent years in exchange, but even there they didnt do that well by only getting one or two of them. Conversely, How about them Mets? Thats the point but take it personal. So now we have $55 mil. @Pads Fans Him being on the roster all year actually means he WONT be a Super Two. The annoying part is we are charged a fee as part of our cable packages to get YES, but more games this year have been splintered off to Prime, Apple and Peacock. The Atlanta Braves have placed right-hander Spencer Strider on the 15-day injured list with a strained left oblique muscle. The lot of before money is hopeful at best. Lets not get silly and act like the Braves ran away with it and were disrespected. I do think its a little harder in Boston/New York because success there translates to big dollars everywhere. Obviously, $76MM in 2028 will carry less weight than $76MM in 2022, but its still a hefty commitment to have so far down the line. Spencer Strider's net worth is $76,667,934. Cant see AA letting him leave and downgrading the roster when theyre so competitive at every other lineup spot except left field. Is your life so empty that you pore over comments in three week old articles in search of targets for your insults? Shane Spencer didnt have elite closer K numbers as a starting pitcher. First of all, hes not a Super Two candidate, and even if he was, the Braves would have another year of control to where he wouldnt be a free agent until after 2028. Talks a lot about eating correctly, training well, and staying mentally fit. They signed scherzer only to make a run this and set an example for winning and pitching which he did. He didnt go to the Yankees because he was a Yankee fan. Luckily for the Braves, they have Strider under contract through 2029. If you wait a year or two and he continues to pitch well, then his pricetag doubles. Had the Yankees given Judge the same treatment after the 2017 season, we wouldnt be having Judge FA discussions. 2 things: 2w Edited Using multiple accounts on the same thread shows a much bigger disconnection from reality. Should have let Strasburg leave. Whats that got to do with anything in this conversation. All logos are the trademark & property of their owners and not Sports Reference LLC. 2023 Payroll Totals 2023 Active Competitive Balance Tax Totals Note: Tax figures based on payroll data only. Walk rate down to a career low while his K rate is basically at a career high. Wouldve been a massive overpay. Only one thing is certain: his grandmother is a huge Cleveland Indians fan. We can stay the underdog and underrated for all I care . $12M (2025) As usual, i was right. TJ surgery for Munoz, Greene, and almost every other guy to hit 99+ mph. If you dont you price yourself out of future contracts by playing the waiting game. Atlanta Braves RHP Spencer Strider on 15-day IL for strained oblique And so in that way, I don't feel any pressure. Not a guy making upwards of 20MM a year. Im a huge mets fan but the braves are the best run organization in baseball by far. They played their home games at Truist Park (Park Factors: 114/116) where 3,129,931 fans witnessed their 2022 Braves finish the season with a .623 winning percentage. The team has 15 players, none of which are Swanson, taking up $180M of their payroll in 2023. Thats more than just the best rookie season ever. Youre the one who seems to be carried away w/your attempts to belittle Strider. Now that theyre going against the Yankees, Cleveland has prime time. Super Two only applies when they have at least approximately 2/3 of a year of service time but less than a full season to where the team gets almost seven years of control (like the infamous Kris Bryant example) instead of slightly over six as in Striders case. It would also be easier to negotiate more free agent years into the deal while still getting a significant discount on them. Besides, adding a couple extra free agent years at close to market value on a later extension is absolutely worth it if he is indeed for real. Spencer Strider was born on October 28, 1998. Swanson is not as good as those guys. TO make the math easy lets just say by 20%. Your login session has expired. See more salaries for 2021. Fantasy Baseball: Walking the Waiver Wire 6/12 Cant do it? They signed him to a lucrative six-year, $75 million extension on October 10. But since they extended him this is obviously all moot. Baseball Almanac is pleased to present a unique . It seems about in the right range. He has not stated how much he was paid by the teams while getting picked by the MLB. For someone like me who can only watch my team on national broadcasts due to the unavailability of my teams cable channel at a decent price, getting to watch them on TV (instead of settling for the radio like usual) a few extra times a season thanks to the Apple deal is great. The only way this deal makes sense is if he becomes an inner-circle Hall-of-Fame pitcher who is the greatest pitcher of our generation. Product executive enabling intelligent decisions through enriching and enhancing data and delivering it in awesome products. Hes played every regular season game but 2 over the last 3 years. Cole has stated since he was in UCLA that he was a Yankee fan and wanted to be in pinstripes when he grew up, he was even drafted by the Yankees and chose college ball, but said it was a tough choice and hoped hed end up there eventually. Thats only one example, but theres so much more risk on the free agent market (especially when looking for TOR arms) than locking up someone that could slot into that. @MJ Youve omitted a year of Sotos arbitration. The Braves have zero middle infield prospects on their top 4 mil teams. the Commanders released Wentz in a cost-cutting measure that will save Washington $26.17 million against the 2023 salary cap. That is just temporary. Also just stick to one account Pads Fans. You could risk buying the ticket at the ball game, but it comes with a 10% day-of-purchase fee. The Braves pay their 1.66 mil per season regardless for that. The main difference is, Swanson still appears to be in his prime, while Baez was 2 seasons removed from it (and counting) as of the 2021-22 offseason, not to mention his catastrophic 2020 season, and leading the NL in Ks at the point he was dealt to the Mets and the attendant risks of that, plus his foolishness while on the Mets. Not a fan of it, but thats the way it works. Now if the Braves had Kris Bryanted Strider he would have finished 2024 with just under 3 years of service time and would have been a Super Two that offseason, not the 23-24 offseason. Kudos to him if he wants to do it; cant blame him for being happy to take nine figures to stay with his hometown team and to stay with this core of players but there should be a lot more on the market for him than that. If thats true, the Braves would essentially be punting their $20M financial gain on his first FA year and option year. I dont count him anyway as hes not exactly in his first or second year. So $74.75 million for the pre-arb and 4 arb years + $72 million for the FA years = $146.75 million. Have to disagree that Baez and Story have more upside than Swanson at this point in their careers. Nothing disingenuous about that. Manager Brian Snitker told reporters he doesn't expect Spencer Strider to need a stint on the injured list while dealing with left oblique soreness. Most rookies dont end up becoming Aaron Judge BTW. I will let you do the math. The Braves do it again, getting 2 FA years of a superb pitcher (incl an option year, fcol), and they get those years very close to a SPs peak ages. When Cleveland was playing TB, they had lunchtime games. You are also assuming he doesnt fall off a cliff statistically like Trevor Rogers this year where he went from a 2.64 ERA to 5.47 ERA or for the analytical types he went from a 2.55 FIP (2021) to 4.36 FIP (2022).
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