Quests Warden Nathan EddieSergeant Lee (optional) Is this how it should be? Powder Gangers | Fallout Wiki | Fandom If you do it fast enough, normal dialogue will ensue and you can start I Fought The Law. At this point, the player character can choose to either kill Pearl (which will drop their reputation with the Boomers to Vilified) or fulfill their promise. It may take a couple of times but I always do it if I start on the side of Goodsprings. Short of either eliminating them entirely or using console commands, probably not. Another advantage is that this mod causes less bloat, by altering less entries. Powder Ganger Rep Fix - Ghost Town Gunfight - Fallout New Vegas If you complete Ghost Town Gunfight without personally killing Joe Cobb, I believe the reputation hit is mild enough not to turn the NCRCF permanently hostile. In my current game I have become vilified by NCR and they don't attack me on sight. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Fallout:_New_Vegas_reputations#Gaining_reputation_points_9. It's an interesting bug, one I have no idea how I produced. The Brotherhood of Steel will give the player character a key to the, They will replenish an ammunition crate next to, Lucius will teach the player character the special, The Legion will also provide various items within boxes outside of, Allows the player character to convince the mercenaries in, Allows the player character to convince each camp in, Required along with a Speech of 50 to trade with. Once the dialogue is complete, check the Pip-Boy. Complete Andy and Charlie by passing the 60. Powder Ganger Simple: A simple t-shirt and jumpsuit combo. Valve Corporation. Credits Down the line I guess he'll probably give you a job or something but I don't imagine it'd pay much more than Powder gangin', the advantage is that you dont destroy EZ Pete's current mortal shell, Easy Pete can suck my 5.3 inch , I gotta a new Dynamite Daddy. 1. It is possible to pickpocket the key from him to avoid the fee. Technical Joined: Sat Jan 20, 2007 6:58 pm. The Version table provides details related to the release that this issue/RFE will be addressed. Reputation in Fallout: New Vegas is a measurement of how the different factions in the Mojave Wasteland perceive the player character. He even ask for the pardon and he want to protect primm from any harm by his frontier justice and put on the sheriff's uniform to make things cooler. Rebuilding to a neutral reputation status (black on table above) will allow for Arcade to be recruited as a companion again, despite his possible angered departure beforehand which caused him to leave. Link: https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/I_Fought_the_LawFallout New Vegas I Fought the Law (Powder Ganger) Quest Walkthrough Unlike factions, they cannot alter a town's reputation with faction armor. Completing quests, helping people, and generally making oneself useful will result in accumulating positive reputation points. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. You need to do both quests for them in order to even get a liked reputation and on the way to the prison you can't even kill the ones that attack you or you lose reputation. What's the point of being fanatical about something that's overall trivial if the attitude is going to be "Y'know, you should be as obsessive as I am as well as know and remember everything I do." Trudy is good for food on hardcore and she can have a decent amount of caps. You can actually do all of Eddie's requests without killing anyone, so no karma issues. Wear the Powder Ganger armor. Other reputations are unaffected. You have to be sneaking (crouched) and you have to be hidden (it'll say [HIDDEN] at the top of the screen when you're [HIDDEN],) to avoid gaining negative reputation with whatever faction you're stealing from. I don't think they attack you until you've been villified. Not undermanned. Powder Ganger Reputation Workaround - Nexus Mods :: Fallout New Vegas Some will make certain people hate you, and some will allow certain people to trust you. Carter But if you help Good Springs you get a handful of caps and well nothing else except now you have to battle your way everywhere since the Powder Gangers hate you and for what? (So they wouldn't fall off cliffs). Telling Marjorie that the player "eat[s] people, too" (-1). For more information, please see our The elite society only accepts the finest candidates. I think that the game would have been much better suited if they had replace all the Powder Gangers with random raiders, Eliminated their two missions or at least the option to side with them, and then spent the extra time fixing glitches in the game. Yeah, but given the circumstances the NCR are serving as the marshals, troopers and governor therefore they would have the power to pardon and deputize at their own discretion. #2 Silverio Dec 29, 2014 @ 5:10am Thanks for the quick response. Convinced the Omerta Thugs to leave peacefully (+2). Wearing faction armor can be used to kill members of an opposing faction without gaining Infamy with that faction. Just run away if you happen to get in to the fight with them. All Discussions Screenshots Artwork Broadcasts Videos News Guides Reviews . Activate the self-destruct sequence of the Hidden Valley bunker (-100). Camp Forlorn Hope morale was rebuilt fully before agreeing to stage the attack on Nelson with Major Polatli (+12). Powder Gangers love to hold grudges. Ways to get fame for Powder Gangers and Legion - Fallout: New Vegas The NCR is an equal opportunities employer. Afterward, players lose reputation for killing a faction member regardless of a successful sneak kill unless that weapon is silenced and the player remains completely hidden. Doing Cooke's quests also nets fame, but no rank up. Arcade Gannon will refuse to be the player character's companion. If Arcade had not previously been recruited, and reputation was. Negative reputation can be earned by things such as killing members of a group, being caught stealing, lying, being rude or treating people poorly, or completing quests for the opposite side. This happened to me when I was vilified. JDK-8141210 : Very slow loading of JavaScript file with recent JDK Unless provoked they will not attack you yet. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. IS there a way to stop beig vilified from the powder gangers. Joe Cobb): Similar to this, one can "sit" in one of the outhouses in the southwest corner from outside the fence, effectively teleporting them inside the facility. 1K. I Fought the LawMy Kind of TownEddie's Emissary Merchants Killing people affiliated with a given faction or town openly (-30 each). Let or help the NCR wipe out the Great Khans without persuading them to release the hostages first (+4). I did the same when I reached novac and got shunned and now everyone attacks me on sight. Because of that you can still do the Powder Ganger quests. There is no real way to fix this on consoles, apart from either restarting or reloading an earlier save, confirmed to happen on both casual and hardcore play modes. You keep the Trudy, the bartender, and Doc Mitchell alive, so thats a plus. Once you're past that point there's very little you can do. Page 1 of 3 - Shunned with NCR but they still dont attack me? If you help the Powder Gangers you get an easy source of explosives and reloading powder, a safe road to Primm, several easy starting missions to get you some caps, a discount in the Good Springs store, easy access to Meyers, etc. Fallout: New Vegas / Funny - TV Tropes Even if the player character is idolized by the Boomers, the doctor will not provide them any medical attention, saying that he needs any supplies left to treat the wounded. Stealing chems on the table in the warden's office gives the player character infamy with the Powder Gangers, even if they are all dead. The community on the outskirts of the Strip has its own code, accepting to those that help, and shunning to those that do not. If you manage to have the Goodsprings NPCs deliver the killing blows on the Powder Gangers during the shootout then you'll only end up being Shunned. I rerolled and did a not so nice guy however. You have Chet and Trudy as vendors for that part of the map. No I did not know, I don't spend my time looking through ALL of the mods. No idea if that was really intended, but it feels like a bug. Appearances Dropping to a neutral reputation status (black on table above) will allow for Arcade being recruited as a companion again, despite his possible angered departure beforehand which caused him to leave. A small, sleepy town that can quickly become an ally; or an enemy. He is a mild-mannered ex-sheriff who will engage in conversation with the player character. Seems like it would make more sense if it could have been negotiated with NCR to let Meyers be the sheriff then Meyers could deputize the other Neutral Powder gangers as his police force. (Note: Script for Primm reputation exists within the game, but is not used.). However, Carter and the Powder Ganger bodyguards in the warden's office will still be hostile. ", Fast traveling to this location can result in a group of wild dogs spawning and attacking if the Courier does not have the. How to get "unshunned" in new Vegas : r/Fallout - reddit New vegas has two settings, rep and hostility. The actual quest to take back the NCRCF is buried within the quests to help the Powder Gangers. If you help the Powder Gangers you get an easy source of explosives and reloading powder, a safe road to Primm, several easy starting missions to get you some caps, a discount in the Good Springs store, easy access to Meyers, etc. They do shot you on sight because they are powder gangers. Also I tried a disguise but it didnt work. With the exception of the White Glove Society, Great Khans and Powder Gangers in Vault 19, all factions will attack the player with a negative reputation. Im not very far into the game but restarting would reset lots of progress. I didn't realize that was necessarily a bug. I've done the Powder Gangers quests, and quite frankly there just isn't any incentive to help them. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. Only chance probably is to use stealthboys to get to Eddie. But it is a difficult quest for low level characters. Negative reputation for all towns and factions, For an overview of the game mechanic across titles, see. He will aggro as you leave but you can just repeat until you can side with the NCR. Fame/Infamy are tracked independently of each other. If the player character has a Liked reputation and helps out enough with the Boomers, they will be offered to raise the. However, any faction that was hostile towards the Courier will remain so, despite the change. Convince Heck Gunderson against cutting off the food supply to the Strip (+12). This is a very simple mod, all it does is make Joe Cobb and his five Powder Ganger friends associated with the Fiends. NCR Correctional Facility appears only inFallout: New Vegas. NCR Correctional Facility appears only in Fallout: New Vegas . If any neutral (black in table above), but positive reputation holds the majority, followed by a 50, If any neutral (black in table above), but positive reputation holds the majority, the Legion will also provide various items within supply boxes outside of. I've been able to pickpocket the key from the dude at the front gate of the prison (and enter Hidden) then go talk to the guy who would then go to Primm (forgot name) without having to fight the gang, but I did not shot any of them or fight them at Goodsprings, so default rep with them I guess, and no disguise. So I am now more or less around Novac, the NCR has been put to the task of keeping Primm in check and I have unfortunately missed out on going to the NCRCF before handling the Powder Gangers at Goodsprings. Still, the bug you're talking about does exist. Shunned with NCR but they still dont attack me? - New Vegas Discussion Though not active in game, it is included for the sake of completeness. Reputation is separated into two categories: Fame and Infamy. How do I get to the Boomers without being blown up? Powder Gangers are not good guys, you get good karma for killing them so why if you are playing a good character are you bothered that they don't like you? The first task is to "take care" of a Powder Ganger named Chavez, who Eddie believes is setting up his own crew without permission. I reloaded my last save which I made 2 hours ago :(. On the road northwest of the facility are six signs that read "NOTICE: Hitch hikers may be escaped prisoners" with the, The NCR Correctional Facility is based on the real life location of, Each of the Powder Ganger snipers have an entry for. Unlike other items in his inventory, pickpocketing the key will never fail as long as the player character is hidden. [Non-game 1] Blasting their way out of the cellblock, they quickly overwhelmed what little NCR personnel was present at the site, killed the warden, and established their own rule. Turn in all 3 supply caches and pass the Science check for the irradiated supplies (+2). [Non-game 1][6] The inmates were tasked with maintaining a railroad alongside the Long 15 under military supervision, keeping the vital link between the Boneyard and New Vegas alive. Please re-enable javascript to access full functionality. Additionally, Powder Gangers outside of the NCR Correctional Facility and the Powder Ganger camp south would originally attack them even with a neutral reputation if the player character gets too close to one, but this has been corrected in the latest patch to the game. So I became Shunned to the NCR and expected that the next time I ran into one of them I would immediately be attacked, but to my surprise I wasnt. However, after hearing his offer, choosing to ignore it will not provoke any altercation. Powder gang merchants will sell to the player character with 1-to-1 exchange rate. All rights reserved. Only "Shunned" by Powder Gangers after Ghost Town Gunfight. By far the easiest way is to load an earlier save. I pretty much couldnt get in but i killed someone close to that area that had a key so i got in and killed every single thing in there. [3] This led to deathclaws settling into the quarry and plaguing the northern reaches of Long 15, shutting down caravan traffic to New Vegas. I don't think that "Shunned" is enough for them to attack on sight. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Alternatively, you could acquire an NCR uniform to disguise yourself and try if you can then talk to Dusty or even Andy about their quests. Our Fallout New Vegas Game Guide includes a walkthrough across this. Kill every Ganger in the main building apart from Eddie, leave the building and wait a day, come back with a powder ganger outfit, sneak until you're just outside the office, then stop sneaking and run to talk with him. Eddie, the leader of the remaining Powder Gangers, has set up his headquarters in the administration building. That would allow you to do the NCRCF quests more easily whichever way you want to proceed. He can unlock the door for a price of 100 caps. If any neutral (black in table above), but at least one instance of positive reputation had been gained, or better, Additionally, one can be granted access to the. But yeah, doing Eddie's quests while Shunned will net you fame, but no upgrade in rank. This is where the NCR sent prisoners to "reform" through hard labor. It's true that Powder Gangers are very useless. make sure you get the booted quest that that will change your reputation to mercifull thug (dunno if they will stop attacking you tho). He sells chems and a few odds and ends. *shrugs*. [Non-game 1][5] When the NCR occupied the Mojave, it was commandeered to house prisoners on a work-release program. I also play with an alternate start mod, so that helps. For example, if killing a Powder Ganger while wearing a uniform of theirs, it might reset all faction reputations. MetalGearGekko 11 years ago #1. So releasing and turning the non-violent offenders into deputies under Meyers and supervision would have made more sense. I swore that this time around I wouldn't kill any of them, except in the Goodsprings thing, but I just can't help myself from killing every single one of them. You get a lot more caps if doing the Goodsprings side, 100 caps initially, 150 when you meet Ringo at Crimson Caravan. A workbench can be found near the door along with an owned crate of explosives. I think with the NCR what people are saying is right: Shunned isn't enough for them to shoot on sight. Using their outfit with bad reputation doesn't work, the unnamed Powder Gangers leaves you alone, but the named ones (Dawes, Eddy, etc) will still turn hostile. In the table below, these are colored green, black, and red respectively. For Fallout: New Vegas on the Xbox 360, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Shunned from Mojave Outpost and Vicki and Vance Casino in Primm". Support items like the NCR Emergency Radio will also become useless, and faction privileges like the McCarran monorail will be lost. The Powder Gangers are hostile toward me. I killed some - GameFAQs Disguises are only available for the five big factions (Brotherhood, Legion, Khans, NCR, and Powder Gangers) and, as such, only mask the standing with those five factions. Karma generally doesn't matter. Then complete quests and earn Fame which will increase from neutral and go up, but only so long as one is wearing that faction's armor. Ref ID Not only are they the lowest level of raider, they get [censored] over the fastest. NCRCF options after being vilified by Powder Gangers : r/fnv - reddit Krystal Wilson. Towns will never be permanently hostile to the player character; leaving the town for three days and returning should remove any hostility. Positive reputation yields the following: The military order is quite a bit demanding when it comes to establishing one's reputation with them. Several Powder Gangers mill about the yard, and several are posted at the tops of the towers. Refusing to participate in this quest, as long as it is done politely, will still earn Fame, albeit much less (+1). I think you'd still be able to do the quests for them at the NCRCF, and the Vault 19 Powder Gangers aren't affected by your reputation with them. Bribe him with powder ganger disguise on you. They are going after the wrong objective. Working on the Chain Gang is a Powder Ganger-centric quest mod designed to begin in the early game, when the player is being introduced to the chain gang, and ends in the midgame. NCRCF (exterior)NCRPrisonAdministrationNCRPrisonBlockANCRPrisonBlockBNCRPrisonVisitorsCenter By far the easiest way is to load an earlier save. Terminals shamelesscreature 2 yr. ago. This gives you access to a Gangers merchant before the assault and then you can wrap up Ghost Town Gunfight 75% off all statistics are made up on the spot Fighting Deathclaws when you're at LOW level <: P, I fought the law without losing reputation. They tell me to get lost most of the time, but if being vilified by NCR meant attacked on sight, you pretty much would have to stay away from civilization altogether. Warden's terminal But I do like betraying the PGs and assaulting the prison in that one quest though. The only way to save Goodsprings and still be able to walk into the NCRCF is to never take part in the fight, let the townsfolk kill all gang members. Only chance probably is to use stealthboys to get to Eddie. If loading a save is not an option, there are only 3 quests which let you gain Novac fame in order to get back to neutral or positive standing. Fallout: New Vegas. What do I do now? If anything this taught me to save more often. Ghost Town Gunfight | Fallout Wiki | Fandom There are six factions (Brotherhood, Legion, Khans, NCR, Powder Gangers, and the White Glove Society) that have disguises which alter one's reputation among other factions. I did several quests with the gangers which all granted rep and then reset my rep to that same nonexistent statelost my access to powder and dynamite for not being a "good boy" despite not attacking any ganger..even those who shot at meThe longer I play this the more Im thinking the boys at Bethesda shoulda put ina few more hours. Successfully assisted Hardin in replacing Elder McNamara as Elder of the Mojave Brotherhood of Steel with himself, and therefore did not assist McNamara in his own tasks (+4). Fallout: New Vegas Mod - Powder Ganger Overhaul by Dragbody The game is good the story line is good but seriouslythe bugs and there are a LOT are starting to piss me off. If that doesn't work, I do ghost town gunfight after the NCRCF. Press J to jump to the feed. For example, if the player character wears Legion armor and kills an NCR soldier, Infamy will be gained, but will be reset to one's prior reputation upon the removal of the disguise. Basically the same problem I had. As if there's anything in this game that's not incomplete. Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America). Whether or not the Courier has provoked Powder Gangers elsewhere, the Powder Gangers here are not hostile unless the player character has established a negative reputation with the faction overall. Once the Boomers are turned hostile via combat (even after completing Volare! [1][2] The Powder Gangers became a scourge on the inhabitants of the region, attacking caravans along Interstate 15 and stealing supplies from settlers and workers. My game is unlucky enough to be severely bugged when it comes to the Powder Gangers so Im real weary now when it comes to something to do with my . [Non-game 1] Some embarked further south to cause mayhem along the Interstate 15. A positive reputation is required to receive the. You're browsing the GameFAQs Message Boards as a guest. If you acquired a "shunned" reputation with the Powder Gangers by completing the Ghost Town Gunfight, you will still be able to talk to Eddie in order to receive this quest but assaulting anyone in the prison or gaining another level of infamy will turn the Powder Gangers hostile upon your entrance. This quest is pretty bad designed, I mean if you want to clean out the facility you have to play nice with the gangers first? During the same scenario as above, it is confirmed that he will propose a truce, in which the player character stays away from the gang outposts and the gang leaves them alone. Several functions may not work. Persuade the Great Khans to release the hostages and then tell the NCR to honor the agreement to escort them back to. gamespot.comgiantbomb.commetacritic.comfandom.comfanatical.com, Privacy PolicyCookie SettingsDo Not Sell My InformationReportAd. One such gap in the fence is situated between the lookout tower and the visitors center and the other is located almost directly opposite it, along the eastern fence. I say steal the key from the door guard, run in wearing the disguise, and then try to talk to Eddie about doing the quest. In cell block B, the Courier can find Carter, a small-time trader, who has set up shop in the cell block. They disappear completely from the storyline after the opening area. This is because the Courier's reputation with them will drop to the lowest rank possible (like Idolized to Wild Child or Liked to Soft-Hearted Devil). Also im playing on the backwards compatible version for Xbox 1 so console commands arent an option. I've done the goodsprings side many times and still did powder gangers quests and walked freely through their territory. What I always do is during Ghost Town Gunfight, I only kill 3 or 4 of the Powder Gangers. Yet again large over-regulated irresponsible government failing. Camp Forlorn Hope morale was rebuilt decently before agreeing to stage the attack on Nelson with Major Polatli (+4). Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. [Non-game 1] Given the fact that the convicts working on the railroads were provided with high explosives in their work and were predominantly violent criminals jailed for serious crimes, this created ripe conditions for a prison break. What happened was is I sided with good springs at the beginning and killed all the other guys, then after being vilified I used console commands to set my rep with them to neutral and when that didn't work, idolized. Using faction armor, it is possible to gain a higher reputation than would be possible. [4], Before the Great War, the NCR Correctional Facility was the Jean Conservancy, a low-security all-female state prison. Broken, bitten, maimed and cut. Wed May 02, 2012 6:08 pm. A state-of-the-art subreddit from Vault-Tec. If you need to kill them, do it while hidden. Once a high-security prison of the Republic, the facility became a fortified stronghold of the Powder Gangers, monitored by Brotherhood and NCR scouts alike. Best way to do their storyline is to do it before the goodsprings quest or get everything for the people of goodsprings and have them kill the powder gangers. Is Fallout new Vegas The Best in the series? Performed surgery successfully by passing a 9, Reporting to Colonel Moore or Mr. House that the Omertas have been dealt with in, Speaking to Caesar after completing either, Caesar dies in any circumstance, except during his operation in. Reply. The Followers respond well to charity and acting in the interests of the common wastelander. Reputation is specific to a certain group/location and is measured in both fame and infamy; you'll usually gain infamy if someone notices you committing a crime. Just before you enter the room with Eddie, take a hit of Turbo and try to beeline to Eddie spamming the talk button while doing that. Community Forum Software by IP.BoardLicensed to: Nexus Mods. Not all convicts are evil and malicious they just happen to be on the wrong side of the law, misguidance or they were setup and or given an unfair trial by corrupt and or incompetent governing. Both Jacob Hoff and Bill Ronte were successfully cured of, or convinced to seek help for, their additions (+12). A negative reputation may result in negative attitudes by the citizens and higher prices when trading. and our If one follows the I Fought the Law questline, they are given the chance to storm the base with the NCR or help the Powder Gangers defend it against the NCR. The player character can also ignore Pearl's request. The following is based on Fallout: New Vegas cut content.
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